More about Noble--veinglory

A quick look online brings up this to show who is behind Noble:
Hello everyone.
I just joined this list and wanted to pop in and introduce myself. Some of you may already know me by my pen name - Jill Noelle. I've had books published by Ellora's Cave, Loose Id and Highland Press. But I'm here in the capacity of publisher and Senior Editor of my new company, Noble Romance Publishing. You can learn more about us at
www.nobleromance.com/aboutus.ppx and
www.nobleromance.com/submissions.ppx.
Our Web site won't be live for another couple weeks, but those two links do work.
Meanwhile, I'm very pleased to be here.
Jill Noelle NobleI was sceptical about how serious they were about asking writers to "push the limits, stretch the boundaries" -- while incest, bestiality et al were still banned. However over at
Karen Scott's blog we get:
"I would consider a story about a couple who roleplay a Daddy/Daughter relationship. :-) I'll also look at forced seduction/rape, because it consistently comes up when women are polled on their sexual fantasies. There are a few other edgier topics I'd like to test..."This leads to the usual insistence that nothing of this sort could ever be considered romance in any way (subtext: you freak). It seems to me that whenever a person is being told by self-appointed representative of the romance genre-slash-community that their stuff is too perverted to sell, they may be onto something (exhibit 1: erotic romance, exhibit 2: m/m, exhibit 3: BDSM, exhibit 4: menage -- need I go on?
Here is may own reply at Karen's:
"And I think the romance market is broader than many people realise or are willing to accept. A small publisher, to succeed, needs to have a niche. Not so long ago m/m was perverted, not romance and never going to sell to women. Now several successful publishers make most of their money from it. Then it was menage, BDSM, and now twincest that was not romance, perverted and not going to sell to women. Funny how those books are also selling well to those (largely silent) customers who want to read them.
There is a *big* difference between 'not for me' and 'not romance'. A love story with a happy ending is romance. The rest is a matter of taste and even if it disgusts one person it might delight many others."As it happens I am very not interested in reading Daddy/Daughter play or rapefic, but I still think Noble might be onto something here. They seem to have a specific niche in mind and to be doing their research. I've had to put up with the controlling alpha-thug of mainstream romance too long to just turn around and define a new mainstream that excludes other peoples kinks and fantasies whether I happen to share them or not.